63000:44:32,279 --> 00:44:34,857- N

630
00:44:32,279 --> 00:44:34,857
- No, that's her mum's camera.
- Vivian's mom?

631
00:44:47,336 --> 00:44:48,495
Oh...

632
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:51,623
- That's Vivian?
- Yes.

633
00:44:52,466 --> 00:44:54,418
JOHN: Wow.

634
00:44:57,346 --> 00:45:01,375
Another thing I found in
Vivian's stuff was this letter.

635
00:45:01,475 --> 00:45:06,847
It was written in French, and it's talking
about a photography lab in France.

636
00:45:17,324 --> 00:45:19,685
- And you can do... like this.
- Oui.

637
00:45:19,785 --> 00:45:23,030
The letter starts out,
"Dear Mr Simon..."

638
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:05,531
Ah. (WHISPERS)

639
00:46:12,504 --> 00:46:14,248
Aah! D'accord.

640
00:46:55,964 --> 00:46:57,583
Ah!

641
00:47:00,427 --> 00:47:03,622
Previously, we thought
Vivian had no intentions

642
00:47:03,722 --> 00:47:07,084
of having anybody else print
her work or show her work.

643
00:47:07,184 --> 00:47:10,629
This letter proves that
assumption wrong.

644
00:47:10,729 --> 00:47:12,965
Vivian knew she was a
good photographer,

645
00:47:13,065 --> 00:47:15,551
and she knew that these
photographs were good.

646
00:47:15,651 --> 00:47:17,720
She wanted to show them to people.

647
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:20,598
She may not have had that
happen while she was alive,

648
00:47:20,698 --> 00:47:23,025
but we're doing it now.

649
00:47:23,909 --> 00:47:27,487
I stopped scanning myself,
because I just couldn't keep up with it.

650
00:47:32,835 --> 00:47:36,196
There's a lab in New York with
technicians scanning her work,

651
00:47:36,296 --> 00:47:38,866
Monday through Friday, nine to five,

652
00:47:38,966 --> 00:47:41,793
at a rate of about a
few thousand a week.

653
00:47:42,678 --> 00:47:44,788
I've been developing the
black and white films,

654
00:47:44,888 --> 00:47:47,424
so I have about a couple of
hundred left to develop.

655
00:47:50,978 --> 00:47:53,422
It's a very complicated
and tricky procedure,

656
00:47:53,522 --> 00:47:55,633
because you have to get
the formula correct,

657
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:59,061
and there's only one
chance to get it right.

658
00:48:00,362 --> 00:48:02,022
It's... it's magical.

659
00:48:11,999 --> 00:48:14,576
We don't know what she
would have printed,

660
00:48:15,836 --> 00:48:18,246
what she would have chosen or edited.

661
00:48:20,591 --> 00:48:25,253
We're seeing work now for the first
time that Vivian never saw herself.

662
00:48:27,097 --> 00:48:31,835
When you contacted me, I wasn't
sure if I wanted to get involved

663
00:48:31,935 --> 00:48:34,638
in a project with posthumous prints.

664
00:48:35,439 --> 00:48:38,342
I just didn't think it would be
the right fit for the gallery.

665
00:48:38,442 --> 00:48:41,053
This is the room where we
store our photographs.

666
00:48:41,153 --> 00:48:44,181
I think there are about between 25
and 30,000 photographs in here.

667
00:48:44,281 --> 00:48:46,684
I mean, it's more than most museums have.

668
00:48:46,784 --> 00:48:50,771
Vivian Maier, we've had
more interest in this work

669
00:48:50,871 --> 00:48:55,409
than perhaps any other photographer
I've ever worked with.

670
00:49:02,174 --> 00:49:05,585
It's a big problem trying to get
her work into institutions.

671
00:49:06,678 --> 00:49:09,373
The problem is that the
art world establishment

672
00:49:09,473 --> 00:49:11,583
still won't recognise Vivian's work.

673
00:49:11,683 --> 00:49:16,588
Museums usually deal with
the final product, the print,

674
00:49:16,688 --> 00:49:19,558
that was made by the artist
in the artist's life.

675
00:49:20,859 --> 00:49:25,981
They don't want to interpret an
artist's work from where they left off.

676
00:49:26,824 --> 00:49:29,727
That's bogus, because Gary Winogrand

677
00:49:29,827 --> 00:49:33,272
had a desk full of rolls of film
that he never developed.

678
00:49:33,372 --> 00:49:35,107
So they're developing 'em.

679
00:49:35,207 --> 00:49:38,444
Eugene Atget's work was
printed after his death,

680
00:49:38,544 --> 00:49:40,863
and then ended up being
acquired by MoMA.

681
00:49:40,963 --> 00:49:44,750
I mean, it's frustrating,
because it's being done and...

682
00:49:45,467 --> 00:49:47,411
but nobody wants to do
it for Vivian's work.

683
00:49:47,511 --> 00:49:49,872
She did print some of her work,

684
00:49:49,972 --> 00:49:54,543
but it... it was largely not
the best edit of her work.

685
00:49:54,643 --> 00:49:57,588
She was a masterful photographer,

686
00:49:57,688 --> 00:50:00,891
but printing was not her thing.

687
00:50:02,359 --> 00:50:06,013
That's common, though. I mean,
Cartier-Bresson hated printing,

688
00:50:06,113 --> 00:50:08,182
and Robert Frank
wasn't a good printer.

689
00:50:08,282 --> 00:50:09,983
But they hire printers.

690
00:50:10,993 --> 00:50:13,153
They hire somebody to print for them.

691
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:18,108
Good work is good work, and it's
recognised that this is really great art.

692
00:50:18,208 --> 00:50:21,495
I do think her work needs to be
appreciated by... by the world.

693
00:50:24,673 --> 00:50:26,458
These are the new prints.

694
00:50:26,967 --> 00:50:29,661
JOHN: Cool. Yeah, these are great.
Thank you for showing me.

695
00:50:29,761 --> 00:50:31,830
They're yours.

696
00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:35,959
The only way this work can move forward
is if there's money that is made.

697
00:50:36,059 --> 00:50:38,678
The sale of prints will
be a part of that.

698
00:50:43,775 --> 00:50:49,223
Of course, I wish that I could
give her money, you know...

結果 (中文) 1:

63000:44:32，279--> 00:44:34，857-不，那是她妈妈的相机。-薇薇安的妈妈吗?63100:44:47，336--> 00:44:48，495哦......63200:44:50，130--> 00:44:51，623-这是薇薇安?-是的。63300:44:52，466--> 00:44:54，418约翰: 哇。63400:44:57，346--> 00:45:01，375另一件事，我发现在维维安的东西是这封信。63500:45:01，475--> 00:45:06，847它用法语写的和它说的关于在法国的摄影实验室。63600:45:17，324--> 00:45:19、 685-和你可以...，像这样。-Oui。63700:45:19，785--> 00:45:23，030这封信开始，"......亲爱先生 Simon"63800:46:03，829--> 00:46:05，531啊。(小声)63900:46:12，504--> 00:46:14，248啊!达科德。64000:46:55，964--> 00:46:57，583文委会64100:47:00，427--> 00:47:03，622以前，我们认为维维安有没有意图64200:47:03，722--> 00:47:07，084有其他人打印她工作或展示她的作品。64300:47:07，184--> 00:47:10，629这封信证明假设错了。64400:47:10，729--> 00:47:12，965维维安知道她是好的摄影师，64500:47:13 065--> 00:47:15，551她知道这些照片是好的。64600:47:15，651--> 00:47:17，720她想向人们展示他们。64700:47:17，820--> 00:47:20，598她不可能有这样而她还活着，不发生64800:47:20，698--> 00:47:23，025但我们现在正在做它。64900:47:23，909--> 00:47:27，487我停止扫描我自己，因为我只是跟不上它。65000:47:32，835--> 00:47:36，196有是一个实验室在纽约与技术人员扫描她的工作，65100:47:36，296--> 00:47:38，866星期一到星期五，4:51 上午，65200:47:38，966--> 00:47:41，793在率约几千一周。65300:47:42，678--> 00:47:44，788我一直在开发黑色和白色的薄膜，65400:47:44，888--> 00:47:47，424所以我约几个百留下来发展。65500:47:50，978--> 00:47:53，422它是一个非常复杂和棘手的过程，65600:47:53，522--> 00:47:55，633因为你要公式正确，65700:47:55，733--> 00:47:59，061和只有一个求取正确的机会。65800:48:00，362--> 00:48:02，022它有它是神奇的。65900:48:11，999--> 00:48:14，576我们不知道什么她将有打印，66000:48:15，836--> 00:48:18，246什么她会有选择或编辑。66100:48:20，591--> 00:48:25，253我们看到现在为第一工作维维安从来没有见过自己的时间。66200:48:27，097--> 00:48:31，835当你与我联系时，我不是肯定的如果我想要介入66300:48:31，935--> 00:48:34，638在追授版画的项目。66400:48:35，439--> 00:48:38，342我只是觉得它会最适合的画廊。66500:48:38，442--> 00:48:41，053这是的房间在哪里我们存储我们的照片。66600:48:41，153--> 00:48:44，181我认为有大约 25 之间和 30,000 的照片在这里。66700:48:44，281--> 00:48:46，684我的意思是，它的比大多数博物馆有。66800:48:46，784--> 00:48:50，771维维安麦尔，我们已经这项工作更感兴趣66900:48:50，871--> 00:48:55，409也许任何其他摄影师比我见过。67000:49:02，174--> 00:49:05，585它是想要一个大问题她到机构的工作。67100:49:06，678--> 00:49:09，373问题是，艺术世界建立67200:49:09，473--> 00:49:11，583仍然不会承认维维安的工作。67300:49:11，683--> 00:49:16，588博物馆通常处理最终产品，打印，67400:49:16，688--> 00:49:19，558使由艺术家在艺术家的生活。67500:49:20，859--> 00:49:25，981他们不想解释从他们停下来的地方的艺术家的作品。67600:49:26 824--> 00:49:29，727那是假的因为 Gary 温67700:49:29，827--> 00:49:33，272有一张书桌全卷胶卷他从来没有开发。67800:49:33，372--> 00:49:35，107所以他们开发他们。67900:49:35，207--> 00:49:38，444Eugene 阿杰工作了他死后，打印68000:49:38，544--> 00:49:40，863后来才被通过现代艺术博物馆。68100:49:40，963--> 00:49:44，750我的意思是，它是令人沮丧，因为它正在做和...68200:49:45，467--> 00:49:47，411但没人愿意做它为维维安的工作。68300:49:47，511--> 00:49:49，872她打印一些她的工作，68400:49:49，972--> 00:49:54，543但是...它很大程度上不是她的工作最好的编辑。68500:49:54，643--> 00:49:57，588她是一个专横的摄影师，68600:49:57，688--> 00:50:00，891但印刷不是她的事。68700:50:02，359--> 00:50:06，013这是常见的虽然。我的意思是布列松恨印刷，68800:50:06，113--> 00:50:08，182和罗伯特 · 弗兰克不是很好的打印机。68900:50:08，282--> 00:50:09，983但他们雇佣的打印机。69000:50:10，993--> 00:50:13，153他们雇人为他们打印。69100:50:13，620--> 00:50:18，108好工作是很好的工作，和它是认识到这是真正伟大的艺术。69200:50:18，208--> 00:50:21，495我认为她的工作需要赏识的...，由世界。69300:50:24，673--> 00:50:26，458这些是新的版画。69400:50:26，967--> 00:50:29，661约翰: 酷。是的这些都是伟大的。谢谢你为我展示。69500:50:29，761--> 00:50:31，830他们是你的。69600:50:31，930--> 00:50:35，959唯一途径这项工作可以继续前进是如果是钱了。69700:50:36，059--> 00:50:38，678印品的销售会是的那一部分。69800:50:43，775--> 00:50:49，223当然，我希望我可以给她钱，你知道...

結果 (中文) 3:

630
00:44:32279——> 00:44:34857
-不，那是她妈妈的相机。
-维维安的妈妈？

631
00:44:47336——> 00:44:48495
哦……

632
00:44:50130——> 00:44:51623
-那是维维安吗？
-是的。

633
00:44:52466——> 00:44:54418
约翰：哇。

634
00:44:57346——> 00:45:01375
另一件我在
维维安的东西发现了这封信。

635
00:45:01475——> 00:45:06847
是用法语写的，它说的
关于法国摄影实验室。

636
00:45:17324——> 00:45:19685
-你可以做…这样
。-是。

637
00:45:19785——> 00:45:23030
信开始，
“亲爱的西蒙先生……”

638
00:46:03829——> 00:46:05531
啊。（小声说）

639
00:46:12504——> 00:46:14248
啊！明白。

640
00:46:55964——> 00:46:57583
啊！

641
00:47:00427——> 00:47:03622
以前，我们认为
维维安没有意图

642
00:47:03722——> 00:47:07084
有别人打印或显示
她的工作她的工作。

643
00:47:07184——> 00:47:10629
这封信证明
假设错了。

644
00:47:10729——> 00:47:12965
维维安知道她是
好的摄影师，

645
00:47:13065——> 00:47:15551
她知道这些
照片是好的。

646
00:47:15651——> 00:47:17720
她想展示给人们。

647
00:47:17820——> 00:47:20598
她可能没有，
发生在她活着的时候，

648
00:47:20698——> 00:47:23025
但我们现在正在做的。

649
00:47:23909——> 00:47:27487
我停止扫描自己，因为我只是
无法跟上它。

650
00:47:32835——> 00:47:36196
有与
技师扫描她的工作的纽约实验室，

651
00:47:36，296——> 00:47:38866
星期一至星期五，九，五，652


00:47:38966——> 00:47:41793
速率大约是一
几千的一周。

653
00:47:42678——> 00:47:44788
我已经发展
黑白电影，

654
00:47:44888——> 00:47:47424
所以我有几
百留下来发展。

655
00:47:50978——> 00:47:53422
这是一个非常复杂的
和复杂的过程，

656
00:47：53522——> 00:47:55633
因为你得
公式正确，

657
00:47:55733——> 00:47:59061
和只有一
机会得到它的权利。

658
00:48:00362——> 00:48:02022
就..这是不可思议的。

659
00:48:11999——> 00:48:14576
我们不知道她
就会打印，

660
00:48:15836——> 00:48:18246
什么她会选择或编辑。

661
00:48:20591——> 00:48:25253
我们看到现在的工作的第一
时间，维维安从来没有看见自己。

662
00:48:27097——> 00:48:31835
当你联系我，我不
肯定如果我想

663
00:48:31935——> 00:48:34638
与死后的打印项目。

664
00:48:35439——> 00:48:38342
我只是没想到会
为画廊合适。

665
00:48:38442——> 00:48:41053
这是我们的房间里
存储我们的照片。

666
00:48:41153——> 00:48:44181
我想大约有25和30000之间
照片在这里。

667
00:48:44281——> 00:48:46684
我的意思是，它比大多数博物馆都有。

668
00:48:46784——> 00:48:50771
维维安梅尔，我们已经在这工作669



00:48:50871——> 00:48:55409
也许比其他任何摄影师
更感兴趣我用过。

670
00:49:02174——> 00:49:05585
这是一个大问题，试图让
她的工作机构。

671
00:49:06678——> 00:49:09373
问题是
艺术世界建立

672
00:49:09473——> 00:49:11583
仍然不承认维维安的工作。

673
00:49:11683——> 00:49:16588
博物馆通常处理
最终产品，打印，

674
00:49:16688——> 00:49:19，558
，是由艺术家的生活艺术家
制成。

675
00:49:20859——> 00:49:25981
他们不想从那里离开
解读艺术家的作品。

676
00:49:26824——> 00:49:29727
那是骗人的，因为加里
Winogrand
677
00:49:29827——> 00:49:33272
挤满了电影
辊台，他从不发达。

678
00:49:33372——> 00:49:35107
所以他们开发了

679
00:49：35207——> 00:49:38444
Eugene Atget的作品是在他死后
印刷，

680
00:49:38544——> 00:49:40863
然后最终获得的
MOMA。

681
00:49:40963——> 00:49:44750
我的意思是，这是令人沮丧的，因为它的
做……

682
00:49:45467——> 00:49:47411
但没人想做的
为维维安的工作。

683
00:49:47511——> 00:49:49872
她打印一些她的工作，

684
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